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	<title>Comments on: RIFE with frustration</title>
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	<description>Incessant chatterings of a young fart</description>
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		<title>by: Anker</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintivemewling.com/articles/rife-with-frustration#comment-427</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well thanks for explanations</description>
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		<title>by: Geert Bevin</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintivemewling.com/articles/rife-with-frustration#comment-419</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just a minor follow-up note. Steven (the author of this blog post), has since then become a contributor to RIFE and he has written an application for Facebook with RIFE to demonstrate their public API: http://moochspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a minor follow-up note. Steven (the author of this blog post), has since then become a contributor to RIFE and he has written an application for Facebook with RIFE to demonstrate their public API: <a href='http://moochspot.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://moochspot.com/</a>
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		<title>by: Geert Bevin</title>
		<link>http://www.plaintivemewling.com/articles/rife-with-frustration#comment-393</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For those that stumble into this blog post, we are actually discussion all of this on the mailinglist:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.rife.user/3037/focus=3038

This is an excerpt of my initial reaction:
&quot;Hi Steven,

I'm sorry that you're bumping into this block.

I agree that documentation is lacking in some areas, mostly for code  
that was initiated earlier than three years ago. We've tried to fill  
in the Javadocs holes and I think that in the areas that we did  
cover, we're doing an excellent job at this. In contrast to what  
you're saying, there have been many compliments about the quality of  
the current documentation (even though there are lacunas). Also,  
since three years, no public APIs get committed anymore without  
Javadocs. Additionally, as you probably saw, each release contains  
extremely detailed release notes with examples that are afterwards  
aggregated in the wiki's cookbook. I think that there is no open- 
source project out there that does this as extensively. Stating that  
documentation is an afterthought thus feels really very harsh to me.  
A project with the momentum of Spring, with their amount of  
contributors and commercial companies behind it, is of course able to  
provide a lot more in terms of books and user guides. There's only so  
much that a small team of motivated developers can do for free in  
their spare time. However, if you do feel that some areas need to be  
improved quicker, you're always welcome to contribute to the effort  
and document your findings either in articles or Javadoc additions  
that you can send to me as patches.

... more ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that stumble into this blog post, we are actually discussion all of this on the mailinglist:<br />
<a href='http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.rife.user/3037/focus=3038' rel='nofollow'>http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.rife.user/3037/focus=3038</a></p>
<p>This is an excerpt of my initial reaction:<br />
&#8220;Hi Steven,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you&#8217;re bumping into this block.</p>
<p>I agree that documentation is lacking in some areas, mostly for code<br />
that was initiated earlier than three years ago. We&#8217;ve tried to fill<br />
in the Javadocs holes and I think that in the areas that we did<br />
cover, we&#8217;re doing an excellent job at this. In contrast to what<br />
you&#8217;re saying, there have been many compliments about the quality of<br />
the current documentation (even though there are lacunas). Also,<br />
since three years, no public APIs get committed anymore without<br />
Javadocs. Additionally, as you probably saw, each release contains<br />
extremely detailed release notes with examples that are afterwards<br />
aggregated in the wiki&#8217;s cookbook. I think that there is no open-<br />
source project out there that does this as extensively. Stating that<br />
documentation is an afterthought thus feels really very harsh to me.<br />
A project with the momentum of Spring, with their amount of<br />
contributors and commercial companies behind it, is of course able to<br />
provide a lot more in terms of books and user guides. There&#8217;s only so<br />
much that a small team of motivated developers can do for free in<br />
their spare time. However, if you do feel that some areas need to be<br />
improved quicker, you&#8217;re always welcome to contribute to the effort<br />
and document your findings either in articles or Javadoc additions<br />
that you can send to me as patches.</p>
<p>&#8230; more &#8230;&#8221;
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